Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

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Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by Will » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:19 am

So here is an attempt at my first post on the Forum!

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I would be very grateful for any insights on what I THINK is a Dutch cuirassier helmet. Is there any way to date these? I cannot find any markings on it at all.

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Re: Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by Will » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:24 am

Well, that seemed to work, so I'm going to try to post a few more photographs....

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Re: Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by kaiser » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:11 pm

For beeing your first time to post here you nailed it with showing this type of helmet
The only thing i can see and say that it is an outstanding helmet

I wont be of any help here i know little or nothing of these types of helmets
I think somewere here on the forum there is one already posted and if i am not mistaken it was to be belgian helmet ,but this is said with doubts

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Re: Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by J.LeBrasseur » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:31 pm

Wonderful helmet, indeed it is Belgian

Congrats, would love to have that one in my collection


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Re: Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by Will » Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:01 pm

Thank you, gentlemen!

So it is Belgian? and not Dutch?

Is there any place on the helmet where there might be markings to indicate date of manufacture?

Thanks very much again!

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Re: Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by kaiser » Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:24 pm

Dutch is the language that is used in belgium and the netherlands or holland
If things like this helmet are of a specific country its either prenounced as beeing belgian or dutch
The word hollands or netherlands sounds a bit funny if you ask me

As for the second question i have no clue not everyting was marked
Did you check the inside or perhaps behind the lïner

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Re: Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by J.LeBrasseur » Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:15 pm

if you gently lift up the fur comb on the back side, and look at the metal helmet, there may or may not be any marks.

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Re: Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by Khukri » Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:43 am

Not Belgian!!! See the link below. Carabineers or Cuirassiers.
Think: Carabineers. No or only low metal comb. The wool caterpillar looks to sit directly on the helmets body.
And yes: the stamps should be on the outside of the neckguard. Covered by the "cat".... ;-))
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Post by Khukri » Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:51 am

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Re: Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by Will » Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:13 am

Thanks VERY much for the assistance and comments, gentlemen. I truly appreciate the help!

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Re: Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by stuka f » Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:47 am

Defenetly a Dutch helmet, and a very rare one! Congrats! =D>
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Post by Schiavona13 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:12 pm

would love to see the photos can you repost ?
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Re: Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by Schiavona13 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:55 pm

Sorry to say but unfortunately this helmet is a total fantasy helmet, The lion is Belgium but they not have a metal helmet with a lion as front plate . the chinscales seem to be from a french Firebrigade helmet and not one part of the helmet is Dutch ( the front visor is never pointy on a Dutch helmet )
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Post by b.loree » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:51 pm

I know nothing about these helmets but all the same...Welcome to the forum Will !
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Re: Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by stuka f » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:54 am

Schiavona13 is probably right about this helmet being a put together...
Belgian first model cuirassier helmets have all ready being posted on the forum.
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Re: Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by stuka f » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:59 am

A Belgian second type can be seen here;
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12325
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Re: Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by stuka f » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:10 am

Always looking for Belgian Congo stuff!
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Re: Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by Sandmann » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:15 am

The Helmet is for sale at griffinmilitatia.com as a „Model 1838 Kingdom of the Netherlands Cuirassier Helmet“ with identical Photographs like shown in this post.
http://griffinmilitaria.com/cgi-bin/imc ... us=&title=
The site sells also other fancy stuff like this one :-k
http://griffinmilitaria.com/cgi-bin/imc ... us=&title=
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Re: Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by Schiavona13 » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:44 pm

And for sale with a totally stupid price

btw if anybody knows any Dutch metal helmets or other old Dutch headgear medals of swords for sell please let me know
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Re: Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by stuka f » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:49 pm

Just sold the few Dutch items I had at the MPO sale.
Don't know if NSB items are on your list too, found a 1942 jaarboek, lately?
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Re: Dutch Cuirassier Helmet

Post by Schiavona13 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:13 pm

i bought a few items there at that sale ( kmar veldmuts and m1912 platte pet ) , i donnt collect NSBbut thanks for offering
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