WWI Austro-Hungarian caps

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WWI Austro-Hungarian caps

Post by bcalkins » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:19 pm

Hi,
Let's all your AH caps. I'll start the ball rolling with a few. At the suggestion of Gus, I'm trying to post for the first time...let's hope it works.

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Post by bcalkins » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:20 pm

Looks like it didn't. ](*,)

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Post by bcalkins » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:22 pm

Another try...

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Post by bcalkins » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:23 pm

I think my pics are too big. I'll try again tomorrow.

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Post by Gustaf » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:07 pm

OK, I will post a few photos of a cap I found in the breast pocket of a tunic given to me in 1972
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This cap was worn by Fedinand Holzner of the Reitende Tiroliean Kaisersschützen during WWI, there are no markings in it, as the liner is missing (if there ever was one).
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Post by bcalkins » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:40 pm

Great cap Gus. Not uncommon at all to find these with the lining removed. I will give posting another try now...

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Post by bcalkins » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:43 pm

First cap...
1914 dated hechtgrau issue cap. All these badges are original to the cap.
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More to come later...

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Post by bcalkins » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:44 pm

OK...I still have not figured this out...

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Post by bcalkins » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:38 pm

OK...here we go again...
This is an issue feldgrau cap dated 1916.


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Post by bcalkins » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:41 pm

Success at last!

Here again is the 1914 dated Hechtgrau issue cap.
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Post by Gustaf » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:21 pm

Great caps, I think I am going to like it better when you could not post photos:) because now I want more.
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Post by RON » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:11 am

Seems like the Austrians are the ones who influenced the Wehrmacht's famous M43 Cap after all...
Thanks for sharing these!
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Post by badener » Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:35 am

I really like the 1914 hechtgrau! Very nice. :)
It must be a Bavarian. They always smell the worst!

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Post by bcalkins » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:51 pm

New cap recently added to collection...
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Post by bcalkins » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:54 pm

Here's another...dated 1902.

Anyone else have something new to show?
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Post by Markgraf » Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:14 am

What about this? 8-)

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Post by bcalkins » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:55 am

A very interesting cap!! Do you have a photo of the inside?

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Post by bcalkins » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:59 am

Here is another...

Typical red wool regulation lagerkappe for prewar mounted troops...but this cap is dated 1916!
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Post by Markgraf » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:57 am

bcalkins wrote:A very interesting cap!! Do you have a photo of the inside?
Nothing interesting (no stamps or any other markings). Crude linen liner, light leather sweatband, nearly unused.

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Post by bcalkins » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:09 pm

Markgraf,
I just noticed on looking again that your cap has a Honved IFJ cockade. As far as you know is it original to the cap? If so...too bad it's nor issue stamped. Honved caps are really hard to find. Would you sond me any and all pics you have of this cap? I would really appreciate seeing it.

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Post by Markgraf » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:07 am

Brian,

The cap is the part of the collection of the Hungarian Military Museum. Sadly we have no informations about the origin because the large part of the museum's registry destroyed during the WWII. However the cap was the part of the collection since the interwar period.

Most probably a private purchase piece.

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Post by bcalkins » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:48 pm

Thanks for the extra photos and the background info. It is a very interesting cap.

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Post by Chip Minx » Thu May 16, 2013 11:45 pm

Brian,

What do you think of the visor? It seems much thicker than ones on any cap I have seen. The visor on my Hechtgrau is paper thin!

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Post by bcalkins » Sat May 18, 2013 11:23 am

Chip,
I have several caps with visors that thick and I have seen plenty others. Seems like it varied between maker.
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Post by Chip Minx » Wed May 22, 2013 7:22 pm

Thanks Brian. Obviously, I haven't seen as many of these as you. :) I was just remembering that the Czech made repros I have seen had thick visors.

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Post by Markgraf » Thu May 23, 2013 3:08 am

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Post by badener » Thu May 23, 2013 7:52 am

What an impressive collection Markgraf! =D>
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Post by Markgraf » Thu May 23, 2013 8:39 am

badener: Thank you but in the fact it is the collection of the Hungarian Military History Museum :)

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Post by bcalkins » Thu May 23, 2013 3:57 pm

Thanks for posting that last cap. Very nice. Just to keep things rolling on this thread...here is a shot showing the badges/kappenabzeichen on the latest addition to my collection. I only have three caps that I can say for sure that the badges are original to the cap and this is one of them. Interesting to note that this cap is made of felt rather than wool. Not unusual to see felt caps...but the cap body is usually a single molded piece. This one has the body sewn together like a wool cap.

Chip...I just noticed that your grandfather was an electric signalman. My grandfather on my mother's side also trained as an electric signalman but didn't make it overseas. My paternal grandfather trained as a pursuit pilot...also, luckily, he didn't ship out either. Survival rate was pretty low for fighter pilots.
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Post by Chip Minx » Fri May 24, 2013 12:00 am

Brian,

My Hechtgrau pressed felt cap is constructed the same way. It also has a sweatband identical to the one in yours, i.e., the color and cross-hatching.

Is your new one a Kaiserschützen example? It looks like it has the feather quill pouch on the side. I like the Italian officer's and enlisted collar stars added as souvenirs.

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Post by bcalkins » Fri May 24, 2013 12:17 pm

Chip,
I thought your hechtgrau felt cap had a one piece body? I haven't looked at the photo for a while. The cap was not factory made as a kaiserschutzen cap, but had a pocket sewn on later. When I got the cap all that remained of the feathers was the stems and a little white fluff. Yep, those souvenir Italian stars are cool. I have seen two or three other caps from Italian collection that have then. I have also seen a couple caps that have Russian cockades as souvenir badges.

An interesting thing about these caps with the cross-hatched sweat bands...they also all seen to have the same lining material. It's a smoother linen with kind of shiny finish. I have seen about 5 or 6 of them...I think all from the same maker.
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Post by bcalkins » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:52 pm

Here is my latest find...acquired from a Czech collector. You may have seen this 1917 dated cap already as he has posted it on another forum.
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Post by Larmo » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:11 pm

Nice find Brian, you're getting quite a heard of these aren't you old friend..Guys, these old hats are great, luv'em...thanks for sharing them :thumb up:

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Post by horseguards » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:08 pm

Austrian Infantry junior officer's dress shako.
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Post by bcalkins » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:23 pm

Very nice shako!!! :thumbright: Thanks for posting it.

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