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P08 Art. for my birthday

Post by PICKELMAX » Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:38 pm

It is surely one of the nicest gifts that I never get during all my life!

One of my best friends gave me this gun for my birthday. It was found about twoo years ago, during some retoration works in an old farm near Clermont Ferrand in France. You know what, I believe that I'm happy!
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Post by ww1czechlegion » Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:42 pm

A very fine birthday gift, congratulations! =D>

Best wishes to you on your birthday!

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Re: P08 Art. for my birthday

Post by Dragoner08 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:18 pm

Very nice gift !

You should urgently piece clean . This type of rust is aggressive !

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Post by PICKELMAX » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:56 pm

I did it with some penetrating oil like WD40 and here is the result.
This gun is definitively out of order but is it a better way to clean it and stop the damage of the rust?
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Post by Gustaf » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:20 pm

WD40 is not a good oil to preserve, only to dissolve rust, it will damage the steel with time. It would be better to clean the WD40 off when you finish cleaning, and oil with light oil.
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Post by 911car » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:21 pm

"...during some restoration works in an old farm near Clermont Ferrand..."
This sounds like a fairy tale Maxime. Do you have more details? Where was it found and how did it get there?...

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Post by PICKELMAX » Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:12 am

911car wrote:"...during some restoration works in an old farm near Clermont Ferrand..."
This sounds like a fairy tale Maxime. Do you have more details? Where was it found and how did it get there?...
I will ask for some details but the guy who offered me this gun is one of my best friends (really not a militaria addict!) and he found it in the house of an another friend of ours, sorry but it is the true story and not a "fairly tale". I believe that this gun was brought back by a WW1 veteran and it was probably hidden during the WW2. I can understand that it could drive some collectors to be sceptical, perhaps a bit jealous, but it's the truth and only the truth.
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Post by PICKELMAX » Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:14 am

Gustaf wrote:WD40 is not a good oil to preserve, only to dissolve rust, it will damage the steel with time. It would be better to clean the WD40 off when you finish cleaning, and oil with light oil.
Hi Gus, what do you mean for "light oil", do you have the name of a good product?
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Post by Pickelhaube » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:11 am

That's a very nice present!! :thumb up:

Wished i had friends that gave me presents like that.

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Post by Gustaf » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:08 pm

PICKELMAX wrote:
Gustaf wrote:WD40 is not a good oil to preserve, only to dissolve rust, it will damage the steel with time. It would be better to clean the WD40 off when you finish cleaning, and oil with light oil.
Hi Gus, what do you mean for "light oil", do you have the name of a good product?
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By light oil, I mean a low viscosity petroleum oil, avoid any penetrating oils as some have acid in them to help dissolve rust, WD40 is made from fish oil and other things that are detrimental to many metals. I use Conoco Turbine oil 32, but that is because I buy it in 55 gallon drums. Oil sold for sewing machines should be good as I would guess that shops there do not sell gun oil:)
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Post by PICKELMAX » Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:01 pm

Thanx Gus!

What's you opinion about hot used oil for gear box?
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Post by 911car » Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:07 pm

PICKELMAX wrote:
911car wrote:"...during some restoration works in an old farm near Clermont Ferrand..."
This sounds like a fairy tale Maxime. Do you have more details? Where was it found and how did it get there?...
I will ask for some details but the guy who offered me this gun is one of my best friends (really not a militaria addict!) and he found it in the house of an another friend of ours, sorry but it is the true story and not a "fairly tale". I believe that this gun was brought back by a WW1 veteran and it was probably hidden during the WW2. I can understand that it could drive some collectors to be sceptical, perhaps a bit jealous, but it's the truth and only the truth.
Maxime, "fairy tale" did not mean an invented story! I have no doubt that this happened as you said. Fairy tale refers to something that does not happen in real life (conte de fees), in this case a dream find for a collector. Any regimental markings you can make out on the gun or holster?

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Post by PICKELMAX » Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:34 pm

Yes, Bruno, in this case it's really a "Fairly Tale", an old dream of childrenhood.

An old lady offered to me my twoo first Pickelhaubes when I was 11 years old, they came from his father who died in the second battle of the Marne... today, it's for me the same feeling as the day I did get these helmets. It's just the realization of a dream, I'm in a little cloud even if I never will fire with this gun.

No, any regimental markings on the gun and on the holster, just the maker's stamp "DWM" and the year "1917".
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Post by Gustaf » Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:00 pm

PICKELMAX wrote:Thanx Gus!

What's you opinion about hot used oil for gear box?
I would say "no" to any used oil, as it will usually have contaminants. By the way, this is one of the coolest P 08 Lang Pistoles I have seen.
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Post by PICKELMAX » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:28 am

Thank you, Gus!
I will buy it today.
Yes, it's a very cool one, I'm really happy to get it!!!
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Post by PICKELMAX » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:46 pm

And now, the results :
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Post by Gustaf » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:05 pm

It is nice to see that there is not a round chambered.
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Post by PICKELMAX » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:00 am

Please Gus, what does it mean "no round chambered"?

Excuse me but with such an item, I'm like an absolut begginer... it's a bit different than a Tschapka!
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Post by Gustaf » Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:56 am

PICKELMAX wrote:Please Gus, what does it mean "no round chambered"?

Excuse me but with such an item, I'm like an absolut begginer... it's a bit different than a Tschapka!
It means that there is no cartridge in the barrel of the pistol, when there is a cartridge in a P 08, the extractor sticks up at the top center of the bolt face. The Germans even engraved "Geladen" on that part. Yours is safe by my view of it.
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Post by PICKELMAX » Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:14 pm

Yes, thanx Gus, I knew that and especially since I've seen this moovie of "butchers" :

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Post by keoki7 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:38 pm

For preservation, I would use Ballistol, it was developed by the Germans and has no deleterious effects on wood or leather.

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Post by PICKELMAX » Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:39 am

keoki7 wrote:For preservation, I would use Ballistol, it was developed by the Germans and has no deleterious effects on wood or leather.

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Post by PICKELMAX » Thu May 26, 2016 9:31 am

And now, the Ari Trilogy :
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Post by kaiser » Thu May 26, 2016 3:24 pm

That is a nice trio you got there
And they al have there holster
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Post by gunnertwo » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:44 am

The RR are fascinating! I have a Bavarian M83 Officers, unfortunately without a holster. It came from the son of the WW1 veteran that took if from a policeman when he was on occupation duty.

Thanks for the pics.

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