tschapka real or fake

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tschapka real or fake

Post by golf19gt » Fri May 06, 2016 2:37 pm

hi guys can i have your thoughts on this please
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Re: tschapka real or fake

Post by SkipperJohn » Fri May 06, 2016 3:55 pm

I don't know much about these, and I don't own one, so take this with a grain of salt, but didn't all of these helmets have squared tongues on their liners?
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Post by pointystuff » Sat May 07, 2016 12:50 pm

Legitimate all-felt Tschapkas existed with round-tongued liners.

The old Johansson book has a similar helmet on page 170, but with multiple vent holes in the mortarboard neck and a toggle instead of a hook.

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Post by golf19gt » Sat May 07, 2016 5:55 pm

pointystuff wrote:Legitimate all-felt Tschapkas existed with round-tongued liners.

The old Johansson book has a similar helmet on page 170, but with multiple vent holes in the mortarboard neck and a toggle instead of a hook.
do you think this one is a good one

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Post by pointystuff » Sun May 08, 2016 10:20 pm

I would leave it alone and put money on one with no cloud hanging over it.

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Post by b.loree » Wed May 11, 2016 5:32 pm

I have also, never owned one of these....however, the feldzeichen looks correct...hand stitched, wappen is proper, the liner looks original, tight around the rim, and showing the proper colour for a used, undyed M15 style liner. The kokarde also looks original with the correct colour. The domed brads holding the top on have never been removed since it was manufactured, I see no scratches in the support disc. The chin strap looks original with proper aging but I have never seen that style of rounded corner buckles before. The liner stitching on the outside looks good but I would black light it to make certain that it is "natural" not modern/synthetic. I would be very tempted by this piece, it does not look like a 1970's UK made tschapka.
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Post by Pontiac9999 » Thu May 12, 2016 1:44 am

The felt looks a little "fluffy". Most felt pickelhaubes are a harder more compressed material. Is the felt squishy?

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Post by PICKELMAX » Mon May 16, 2016 10:39 am

Fake!

Never seen a good felt Tschapka with tin removable mortarboard, except for some english copies.
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Post by Westfront » Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:33 am

Fake indeed.

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Post by Tony without Kaiser » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:49 pm

Quickest way to spot these copies, is the shells are cut straight on the bottom like a Pickelhaube. Original Tschapka of any pattern curve down at the back around the wearer's head.
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